The Transference and Counter-Transference in
Psycholytic Therapy


















The Transference and Counter-
Transference in Psycholytic Therapy

By Janine Rodiles

Stuck in a sleeping bag one winter’s night in the middle of
an LSD-25 therapy, I experienced my birth. My whole body
moved abruptly, possessing a pulse-emerging imperative - I
have to be born. “Yes? So, how?” A voice replied, "To be
born you must accept that you will die. Along with the life I
give you, I also give you death."  “Then, I will not be born," I
said with fear, feeling my jugular vein and my heart would
explode at any moment.       

Suddenly the following image came to me: a bridge across
a field, the bridge spanned the two extremes: life and
death. I had to cross the bridge. The voice said, “This is life
and death, but there is a bridge, the bridge is love and
that's what you come to cross: the way of love.” Then I
could be born.
























I had this session in the year 1992 with the famous and
controversial Mexican psychiatrist Salvador Roquet (1920-
1995) who pioneered therapy with entheogens. He
developed a treatment that bound, for first time in human
history, the modern field of psychiatry/ psychoanalysis with
the ancient Mexican traditional medical practice that utilizes
power plants, dating from some 3,000 years ago.

When therapy with entheogens was a scientific project
sponsored by Sandoz Laboratories, in the decade of the
50's, part of the experimental scientific studies that were
conducted, worldwide, concluded that a problem in the use
of these substances in therapy was a potentiation of
transference and counter-transference as the patient could
see his therapist as God or devil. As we know, entheogens
are vehicles and keys to and from the unconscious, so that
the projections that naturally occur in therapeutic work are
much more intense and powerful.

In this therapeutic field, the communication becomes
multidimensional as many channels are open
(neurobiochemical and sacred), therefore it becomes very
risky for people with a purely scientific orientation to offer
these treatments, since the morphogenetic field that sacred
substances evoke is exactly what in the sacred traditions is
known as “spiritual transmission”. Therefore, a therapist
who lacks mystical knowledge and purity of heart does not
really achieve what is known as deep psychotherapy with
entheogens.       














Roquet traveled to Huautla de Jimenez, Oaxaca, Mexico in
the year 1967 with a group of his patients. They went to the
shamaness Maria Sabina, to reach a new state of healing.
Roquet realized the therapeutic tools that are needed to
protect the process of transference and counter-
transference. These tools are firstly, the sacramental
preparation of the therapist, being aware of her/his injuries
and her/his present, and especially for the therapist to offer
this work fully to the Ultimate Source of Being. Secondly,
instead of using direct dialogue with the patient, the
entheogenic therapist, helps facilitate the patient in
reaching a deeper level of connection with him/herself. This
therapy overcomes the fear which dominates a person in
their struggle to overcome unconscious forces that prevent
him/her from contacting the real pain or blockage. Thirdly,
indirect incentives are utilized, incentives full of intention
and wisdom (in an ontogenetic semantic sense), like songs,
pictures, objects, and music, so that the patient may have
the keys to safely open the archetypal personal files
required for each session.  Another aspect of the
entheogenic transmission healing is the integration phase,
which is a work with the re-weaving of the person, once the
effect of the substance has passed. Then through pictures,
letters, music and biblio-therapy, the person can be reborn
into a new core of existence and to recognize his or her
true nature.































© 2009 Janine Rodiles. All Rights Reserved.

Janine Rodiles is a clinical psychologist and the author of
two well-known books: “A Forbidden Therapy: A Therapy
with Entheogens” and “Addictions and Spirituality”.